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Interview with Mr. Rutherford
Perry County Historian

Mr. Michael Rutherford, Perry County Historian
Interview with Mr.
Michael Rutherford
This is the
Cannelton Elementary Media Club and we are here today to interview Mr.
Michael Rutherford the Perry County Historian.
What was Mr. Bob Cumming's job during
the time the bridge was being built and what was his role in getting it
here?
He was with the Cannelton newspaper. At the
time it was being printed in Tell City. They still had a separate
Cannelton newspaper and the Tell City paper. The Perry County News came
later.
What Native Americans lived here and
when?
I don't believe anybody ever lived
here, except there may have been before the Indian time up around Deer
Creek. There were some artifact found up on the flat ground right before
you get to the bridge about four miles up the river. Perry County, most of
southern Indiana, and practically all of Kentucky were there hunting
grounds. The Indians lived farther north up in Washington, Indiana and
central Indiana. They would come in the fall of the year and camp out for
several weeks and months and hunt to take food back to their homes. The
Indians were also farmers and they raised crops during the summer time,
not that any Indians lived here. They did this where they lived, which is
a little farther north, and better farming grounds too. They found some
holes in the rocks. We used to call them corn grounding holes up in the
cliffs behind the town. Maybe they were, maybe they won't. That's what we
used to call them when we were younger. Apparently they used them for
that. Maybe they made them when they were camping here as hunters and they
didn't live here year long.
Arthur Gerber has found some artifacts up
around Deer Creek. Have you ever heard of the Indian mounds? Down in
Spencer County there was a mound just a couple of miles across the county
line. The mound builders were before the people that we called Indians.
These mound builders were called Mississippians. This name was given to
them from people in our recent years. They didn't call themselves
Mississippians. There were mounds up between Derby and Dexter along the
river. The Indians that made these mounds were called the Preak Indians by
the residents and workers around here. The mounds can't be found now.
When did the Native Americans live
here and when?
Answer 3: Of course they came and left
every year. They came and went from their homes in central Indiana. Their
may have been a few Indians from Kentucky. Their used to be a lot of
buffalo hunting over in Kentucky, because the buffalo ate the wild cane up
near the creeks. There was a lot of cane near Hawesville and farther up
stream. A lot of the buffalo came up missing shortly before 1790. There
was a really cold winter once. There was a buffalo trace near the Boy
Scouts. A buffalo trace was a trail the buffalo made between New Albany
and Vincennes. They would travel there. They couldn't cross the river
there, so they crossed at what they call Falls of the Ohio. They could
cross there in the summertime. There was a lot of salt on the Kentucky
side. They would go over there every several weeks to lick salt. That
buffalo trace was used for many years before 1790. The Indiana official
seal has a picture of a guy cutting down a tree with an ax, and they have
a buffalo running away from there. It is said that the buffalo came up
missing in the late 1780s. That was right after the Revolutionary War.
There was a really cold winter. Those that didn't die made it across the
Wabash River into Illinois and farther west. They never came back. There
were buffalo over in Kentucky, because they liked to eat the cane that was
over near Hawesville. All we know about the buffalo and the Indians is
that they went out west. The buffalo were the Indians main course of food
and shelter. The Indians made the buffalo skin into clothes, tipis, and
wigwams. The tipis were made out of buffalo hide. A guy made a joke about
buffalo hides in the newspaper. It was a whole column long.
What is the story of Lafayette Springs?
Answer 4: There are two stories. One of
them which all the rocks were all sat over in the courthouse yard. The
sign over Lafayette Springs said that Laffayette's boat hit Rock Island.
He spent the night at a cabin near Lafayette Springs. The next day a lot
of the local settlers walked up there and talked to him. That was the
story that was going around since at
least 1915 or 1916. In the 1980's a man from Tell City, Bert Fenn, looked
into river stories and river laws for years. He found three eyewitness
accounts of the wreck. It told the true story of the wreck. What really
happened was: On the eighth of May, Lafayette was touring the United
States at that time. It was sort of a farewell trip. He had been over here
with George Washington during the Revolutionary War. He came back, and he
got a lot of American products, such as soil to taken back to France to
put on his grave. He wanted to be buried with American soil. He died ten
years after this trip. His boat was called The Mechanic, was going
upstream. They were traveling at night. There used to be a big rock just
up above where the dam is. It was on the Indiana side. They called it the Lady
Washington Rock. Around 1851, a boat called Lady Washington
wrecked on it. It was round so they called it the Elephant Rock.
They also called it the Elephant-Butt Rock. Also the Behind Rock.
When they were going upstream, day or night, they would go towards the
rock. They would almost go to it then go to turn to the Kentucky side.
They would go up on the Kentucky side, because the current wasn't as
strong. The river made a curve there. There was a question on where the
strongest current on the river at the curve, in the inside or the outside.
It was the outside of the curve. On the inside of the curve you could go
upstream easily. There happened to be a tree there at the time. A tree had
gotten washed down there, and they hit the tree. The boat sank, but it
didn't sink completely.
This was at about 10:00 p.m. Nobody was
around. The only thing that was lost was locked up. It was Laffayette's
little dog. Everybody was safe. They spent the night sitting on a
mattress. It was mostly dry. It was under an umbrella. They built a fire.
It was still raining. They were there for most of the night, and in the
morning they looked across the river. They saw a little cabin. That's just
up above where the dam is now. They said that they got a rowboat to take
them over. There was a family who lived in Kentucky just across the river
by Deer Creek Bridge. This was the Stereck family. They had a story in
their family that the Lafayette party borrowed a rowboat from them. That
may be true. They took Lafayette across the river in the morning, so that
he could be in a cabin. He was there several hours, until there was a boat
coming down the river from Louisville. They found out who was there, so
they took Lafayette on board, and they were supposed to be going to Troy
to get more wood. There was a wood yard in Troy. This boat was going
downstream, and they turned around, changed their course, and took
Lafayette back to Louisville.
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